"shpuker" (shpuker)
11/16/2018 at 03:00 • Filed to: None
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"shpuker" (shpuker)
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The question is simple, what would be the greatest vehicle to do an EV powertrain swap into? My opinion? The Volvo 240 Wagon
It’s long, it’s light, it handles well. It’s the perfect fit! To help further my case here are some estimated numbers...
Volvo 240 GL Wagon...
Weight = 1,400 kg
0-60 = 14.2 sec
Center of Gravity = On the Moon
Volvo 240 GL e Wagon (Tesla P85D Powertrain)
Est. Weight = 2,100 kg
0-60 = ~ 4.2 sec
Center of Gravity = On Earth
pip bip - choose Corrour
> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 03:47 |
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Yugo?
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 04:48 |
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Hilux 4x2. RWD. Light. Easy to 50:50 balance with motor and batteries.
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> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 05:49 |
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> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 06:48 |
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Toyota Previa van. Loads of room underneath, and it’d make for a total sleeper.
BJ
> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 08:26 |
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Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I don’t care if it even works that well. It’d get the Jeep supremacists all salty, and that’s enough for me!
At the same time, it’d be pretty neat, right? Torque to drive your 37" tires with ease, and no harmful pollutions while you’re overlanding that grassy divider at the mall.
CalzoneGolem
> BaconSandwich is tasty.
11/16/2018 at 08:27 |
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Yes. This. You can have a dense battery pack right in the middle.
Tripper
> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 08:37 |
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I think you’ve got it with that Volvo. However, I think I’d go really old like a 40's Cadillac. Something that has no business being so quick. Would love to see peoples reactions seei ng a car like that fly away from the stoplight silently!
jasmits
> kanadanmajava1
11/16/2018 at 10:15 |
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Ooooooooh an electric DS would be too perfect
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> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 10:18 |
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Jensen Interceptor.
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> BJ
11/16/2018 at 10:24 |
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Actually if you think about it electric power would be pretty ideal off road with the major dealbreaking caveat that if you run out of juice you’re pretty much up shit creek without a paddle or even hands to paddle with. Like it’s rare for a weekend-warrior off road or overland trip to exceed 100-200 miles(on the trails, the other problem is how far you have to normally drive on the highway to get to and from trails) which we definitely have the battery tech to handle. Gas vehicles get absolute shit MPG off road compared with on-road, but that’s just because of the large amounts of time idling and in low range or first or second gear, perfect conditions for electric power. Not to mention variably aggressive regen would make great hill descent control. Give it a little diesel generator with a big tank and you’ve got a pretty solid back country vehicle.
Die-Trying
> shpuker
11/16/2018 at 13:16 |
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> jasmits
11/16/2018 at 14:20 |
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Oh, it would absolutely be amazing. Low emissions, tons of torque, etc. I’m not sure that the Jeepers who lift and accessorize and dream of Hellcat swaps are the target market, tho.
I was being a smart-ass, but there are a lot of people that adventure for days at a time without seeing a gas station. Carrying jerry cans is easy, electrons not so easy. A generator/range extender would be a great way to work around this, but it would bring compromise: you’d need to make space for batteries and a fuel tank, plus the generator.
Still, it might be a neat idea. I would at least try it!
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> BJ
11/16/2018 at 14:48 |
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Yeah, so the more overlandy sort of off roaders who would actually be into the idea of electric power couldn’t use it for practical reasons and the rock crawling crowd who it could actually work very well for(especially if they’re trailing their Jeep to and from the ORV park) won’t be interested because it’s not nearly loud or wasteful enough. D efinitely still an interesting concept.
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> BJ
11/16/2018 at 23:06 |
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Sounds like you’re looking for something like what Rivian is showing at the LA auto show
duurtlang
> kanadanmajava1
11/17/2018 at 04:28 |
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That’s a very good suggestion! Many of the engines were decent, but not exactly power houses. Imagine a Xantia Activa with a Tesla drive train. That will be a track weapon!
I like the 2.0 turbo that was available in the Xantia and XM though, especially now that it has been transplanted in my Peugeot 205.
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> shpuker
11/17/2018 at 07:33 |
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I hadn’t heard of Rivian. Interesting!
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> jasmits
01/15/2019 at 10:23 |
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I mean, potentially, depending on the circumstances in which your Jeep just ran out of electrons, you could use solar charging. But ultimately, yeah, a small genset would be ideal as a backup.
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jasmits
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01/15/2019 at 10:42 |
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Solar tech would need to come a long, long, long way for that to be feasible. The biggest portable solar panels made by GoalZero(just the first company making portable solar panels for overlanding and such that popped to mind) claims 10-20 hours to charge their 1000Wh(so, 1kWh) power bank. That means to return even a fifth of the charge to a 50kWh battery like the one that powers the base Model 3 you’d need to have 5 of those out on a perfectly sunny day for the entire day. And even then you’d be lucky to have regenerated 50 miles of range. Even if you brought a silly number of those, say 20, it could take days to generate enough power to get home if it happened to be cloudy. At $600 a pop for 200-watt portable solar cells you could buy a hell of a generator to bring and be home days quicker.
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> jasmits
01/15/2019 at 10:46 |
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Fair enough. I’m just saying, as an absolute, worst-case-scenario fallback option, you could use solar, however impractical.
Grindintosecond
> shpuker
06/04/2019 at 19:09 |
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55 chevy?
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> Grindintosecond
06/04/2019 at 21:44 |
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Chassis stiffening would be an absolute pain, Icon managed to do an old school Mercury though so it can certainly be done!
